Thursday, July 17, 2008

Let Freedom Ring

What is freedom?

Your answer to this simple question, please.

(There are a few ways to think about it, so let your mind wander for a few minutes before answering...)

(Also, this requires you to make a comment to respond with your answer, in case you hadn't realized, thanks)

55 comments:

Corman said...

Oooohhh, nothing like a vague philosophical question to substitute for an actual post.

ANYWAY...

Freedom is the knowledge that you have the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want, for better or worse, but choosing to do that which is Godly.

As Paul says, I can do everything, but not everything is beneficial.

P.S. - I did not think long or hard about this question. So there.

Petie said...

eh, I disagree Corman. Freedom is the ability to choose, nothing more nothing less. Can't throw in what it is you are actually choosing and attach that to freedom. It's like.....choice.......man.

I think freedom as defined by those who so bravely fled the wretched lands of Europe back in the day, would be something to the effect of this: Living your life without "The Man" gettin in ya grill.

Go away government, go away. Let me live. Let me live.

I like to disagree with Corman.

Travis Whalen said...

Is freedom the same as Liberty? If so Good Will Hunting says "Liberty is the souls right to breath, without liberty our lungs are girded too tight, without liberty man is a sinko (a what?) an ibid your honor." Will then goes on to do really challenging math and get the girl... so he is probably right.

Anonymous said...

Freedom is much more than mere choices... in fact can we choose anything? There is "a confluence of mult-faceted inhibitors" (W.P. Young; The Shack) that influence every aspect of how we would "choose" anything. Genetics, metabolism, the power of advertising... how about the betrayal of our own emotion, all influence our ability to "freely" choose.
Freedom is an incremental process in which we gradually come to understand our need for and then daily pursue an intimate relationship with Christ. Only then can we come to understand Him who is TRUTH and through that TRUTH to experience freedom.

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ARBRA said...

I agree with "anonymous" (I wish people would not be so mysterious) in that there is a realization of freedom in Christ, but in the world sense of the word, I think freedom is a mindset as well as a state. I agree with Corman in that it is a "knowledge". I thought this was an interesting quote as well:

"No one is free when others are oppressed." ~Author Unknown

I suddenly feel way to comfortable

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Canada said...

Freedom is complicated – and overrated

I agree with Petie , “Freedom is the ability to choose, nothing more nothing less”


It is interesting to consider that in my freedom I choose to be bound. Be it to an affiliation with this world, or to an affiliation with the God of the universe and holiness, I am bound to service to whichever I choose. If I choose the world, I am bound to sin and its effects not only on me but also on society. If I choose God, through Christ, I am a "Bond Servant of the Lord" and am subject to how my servitude affects society and my own self.

I have freely chosen to be bound to that which is Holy. This is free enough because freedom is not an ultimate objective. Rather, embodying Shalom& Hesed (God’s Loving Kindness) and becoming a person of Holiness are what I, through Christ, desire. If I must be bound to achieve that then I freely choose to be God's.


Outside the Christian context, this question is additionally complicated. Are we free to do things that offend others (loaded phrase)? If we are free to do so, are we then free to ignore others around us or is there some limitation and is choosing to serve yourself still a hindrance to freedom? If we are not free to offend others are we then bound to community?

I would say that we are not ever completely free because whether we acknowledge it or now we are always dependent on others, others always influence us, and we are always disagreeing about something but must live together: We are always in community.

Being married (the most intimate earthly community) has taught me that I am bound to my wife I am bound to her emotions and feelings. If I want to live in community with her and have a good relationship, I must have that and she must be jointly bound to me. Ultimately, it is not troublesome, or limiting to freedom - though it is both of those things. Ultimately is it leading us into a better relationship with one another and a greater Love and understanding.

(I think Americans are, generally, obsessed with freedom to the degree where the concept of “Freedom” has become an idol)

Michael Burchett said...

I would say freedom comes down to a lack of restrictions, on any kind of level.

Annie said...

"never shall i be free, nor truly chaste, except you (God), ravish me"

Annie said...

oh i forgot to cite that.

john donne's Holy Sonnet #14.
thats right. i love it.

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